Help:Tracklists

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If not stated otherwise, all tracklists are valid for the file(s) as described in the "File Details".

Comments: Please add tracklists in the Notes & Tracklist section by editing the the according mix page instead of posting it in a comment.

If you want add links, see Help:Editing & Formatting / Links.

If you want to add ID Samples, see Help:ID Samples.

See also Help:Tracklist Editor.

Tracklist states

Every single mix page is categorized into its state of the tracklist completeness.

All mix page links have a tiny icon in front of the link. They indicate in which Tracklist state category the mix page is added:
IconTLco -2.png complete
IconTLin -2.png incomplete
IconTLno -2.png none

When you add a new mix page or edit an existing one, add it to the according category by hitting the button. These are the options:

TLno.png IconTLno -2.png Category:Tracklist: none: The mix page has no single track identified yet.

TLin.png IconTLin -2.png Category:Tracklist: incomplete: The mix page has an incomplete tracklist. This can be 1 track only or only 1 unknown track name.

TLco.png IconTLco -2.png Category:Tracklist: complete: The mix page has a complete tracklist. That doesn't mean all tracks are 100% correct, but obviously no track is missing.

Remember to always change the state category (or not) when you add or edit a tracklist.

After changing the state category on a mix page you may still see the old icon. Read The page doesn't refresh?.

Formatting a list

There are different ways to format a tracklisting. You should have seen the options at least when you edit existing tracklists or want to add a new one.
It's always recommended to use an external editor for find / replace editing.

<list></list>

The simplest way to include text, links and codes is by using the list tag which is added by default or when you click LineBreak.png. The main advantage is that line breaks are created like when you normally write text (no br tag needed). This is the easiest format when you copy-paste tracklists.

Input Output
<list>
01 Artist - Track
02 Artist - Track
03 Artist - Track
</list>

01 Artist - Track
02 Artist - Track
03 Artist - Track

    
Input Output
<list>
01 Artist - Track
02 {{Sample|ExampleID.mp3|?}}
03 Artist - Track
</list>

01 Artist - Track
02 File:ExampleID.mp3?
03 Artist - Track

# Auto-number and break

You could also add # at the beginning of each row to auto-number the tracks and creating a break (without br or list tags). A complete tracklist with # at the beginning of each row can easily be created by using the WikEd number list.png button or the find / replace in the WikEd Toolbar or an external text editor. Main advantage: If a track is added later somewhere inside no numbering needs to be corrected ;)

Disadvantage: Only useful when the total of all tracks is "known", i.e. can't be used on partly tracklists like this.

Input Output

# Artist - Track
# Artist - Track
# Artist - Track
# Artist - Track

  1. Artist - Track
  2. Artist - Track
  3. Artist - Track
  4. Artist - Track

Multiple Artists

When you have a mix page with e.g. 2 tracklists by 2 DJs you can either place everything into 1 list tag or even better: Make the DJ names bold for a better highlight. Of course you can combine everything with everything as above. Example

Input Output

;DJ 1.....
# Track
# Track

;DJ 2.....
# Track
# Track

DJ 1.....
  1. Track
  2. Track
DJ 2.....
  1. Track
  2. Track
    
Input Output

<list>
'''DJ 1...''' - Text
Track a
Track b

'''DJ 2...''' - Text
Track a
Track b
</list>

DJ 1... - Text
Track a
Track b

DJ 2... - Text
Track a
Track b

Strike out text

The strike out function is needed when the tracklist is complete but the file is missing some tracks. To strike out text, just mark the section to be striked out and use <strike></strike>. Example

Input Output

# Artist - Track
# Artist - Track
# Artist - Track
# <s>Artist - Track</s>
# <s>Artist - Track</s>

  1. Artist - Track
  2. Artist - Track
  3. Artist - Track
  4. Artist - Track
  5. Artist - Track
    
Input Output

<list>
01 Artist - Track
02 Artist - Track
03 Artist - Track
<s>04 Artist - Track
05 Artist - Track</s>
</list>

01 Artist - Track
02 Artist - Track
03 Artist - Track
04 Artist - Track
05 Artist - Track

If you don't know which part to strike out, leave a note above the tracklist like this: "Complete tracklist to incomplete file(s):".

Hidden Comment

Using the Comment.png button will let you insert a comment that is hidden on normal page view but visible when the page is edited (besides being searchable).

It can be very useful to leave a comment in a tracklist, e.g. to give hints for other users (or even yourself) editing the page. It's mainly used to avoid having text "fixed" that looks wrong while being correct. Example

Insert Input Output
<!--  --> 08. Moodymanc - Word <!-- "Moodymanc" is correct -->

08. Moodymanc - Word

Tracklist source

To link to the source of the tracklist, go to the end of the tracklist and click the TLs.png button in the edit toolbar. Tracklist sources are always added below the tracklist.

Insert Input Output
[ Tracklist source] [http://www.discogs.com/groups/topic/158086 Tracklist source] Tracklist source
Multiple sources [http://www.discogs.com/groups/topic/158086 Tracklist source 1],
[http://www.somewhere-else.com/... 2]
Tracklist source 12

Generally for standard shows: Don't add a TL source link when it's the general source given on the show's category page.

We only give credit to those sites where the tracklist was copied from or which helped to complete it.

We don't link to:

  • every website which lists the tracklist
  • private forums which require registration / login to read the tracklist
  • radio show tracklists (standard source linked on category page)
  • podcast websites (normally linked above the tracklist anyway)

Additional tracks

If a track is played on top of another but not as standalone we use + Track in an own row.

Input Output
# Track A

# Track B
# + Track C
# Track D
# Track E
# + Track F
# + Track G
# Track H

  1. Track A
  2. Track B
  3. + Track C
  4. Track D
  5. Track E
  6. + Track F
  7. + Track G
  8. Track H

In combination with duration that would be:

Input Output
# [00] Track A

# [05] Track B
# [??] + Track C
# [12] Track D

  1. [00] Track A
  2. [05] Track B
  3. [??] + Track C
  4. [12] Track D

Produced mash-ups should be in a single row. The difference is that the DJ actually played only one track.

Input Output
# Track 1 + Track 2
  1. Track 1 + Track 2

But sometimes it's necessary to indent a tracklist, e.g. for medleys. Example

Input Output
# Track 1
# Track 2 - Medley
## Medley Track 1
## Medley Track 2
# Track 3

  1. Track 1
  2. Track 2 - Medley
    1. Medley Track 1
    2. Medley Track 2
  3. Track 3

Sometimes it's necessary to indent unnumbered tracks. This should only be used to fit tracklist numberings of physical mixes like Mix CDs. Example

Input Output
# Track A
# Track B<br>+ Track B1
# Track C
# Track D<br>+ Track D1<br>+ Track D2
# Track E

  1. Track A
  2. Track B
    + Track B1
  3. Track C
  4. Track D
    + Track D1
    + Track D2
  5. Track E

Standard tracklist format

On MixesDB the standard format for track names is:

Artist1 Feat. / & Artist2 - Track Name (Remix / Version) [Label - CatNum]

That doesn't mean you have to correct each track to that format when you copy-paste tracklists. But in order to keep the database as consistent as possible we have a few preferences. The Tracklist Editor tries to format tarcklists to teh following format standards:

  • Capitalization
In general we prefer all words to be capped properly (First Letter Of A Word In Upper Case). We also capitalize words like "a" or "the" which actually are lower case in English titles. Exceptions are artist and label names, e.g. dBridge not DBridge, dOP not DOP or KiNK not Kink.
  • Feat. / Pres. / & / + / Mr. or Mr / Inc.
Those depend on what the official artist or collaboration name is. But we change Artist1 and Artist2 and Artist1, Artist2 to Artist1 & Artist2.
  • Remix / Version / Edit
The official version should be used, e.g. (Jerome Sydenham's Blacktro Dub) not (Jerome Sydenham Remix)
Unreleased edits should read the Edit info behind the label, e.g. Fast Eddie - Can U Dance [DJ International] (Paul Mac Edit) since this edit was not released on DJ International.
  • (Original Mix)
This is not needed. When there's no (Remix / Version) behind the track name, the original version is assumed anyway. It's used a lot in Progressive and Trance tracklists, but the logic makes no difference here.
  • Unknown versions
We have no preference here. Use the italic format and either # [00] ''Artist - Track (ID Remix)'' or # [00] ''Artist - Track (Version)''?.
  • Acapellas
Actually the phrase comes from "a cappella" (lower caption) as a form of "singing without instrumental sound", but it doesn't mean the same as we do: A non-instrumental version of a normal vocal pop song or electronic dance music track. Various versions of the writing are used. Use as it's given on the release. If not sure, use the widely spread spelling "Acapella".
  • Label Names
[Label - Cat#] info is optional but needed if Artist - Track Name is not unspecific enough to identify the track.
The Records / Recordings / Music addition to label names are actually part of the official name, but to keep tracklists short & handy we remove those, e.g. [Cocoon] not [Cocoon Recordings].
[White Label] info is kept, but can be reduced to [White]. Same for [Dubplate] and [Dub].
  • Unknown tracks
We prefer # ? over # ??? or # ID. In the past we used # [00:00], but we now prefer # [00:00] ?.
  • ? - Track
  • N/A - Track for unknown / non-credited white label artists (is only complete with label / cat# info)
  • Artist - ?
  • Artist - Track (? Remix)
  • Tracklist gaps
On new tracklists with gaps we prefer [??] as duration and ... as gap filler for 1 or more tracks. See also Start a new tracklist.
  • Starting time of tracks
Usability applies here. When an existing tracklist already uses [XX:XX], keep it in that format.
For self-written tracklists we prefer [XX]. You can use the short version also for tracklists which only use full minutes like [XX:00]. [XX] has a some advantage: It makes writing a tracklist with duration much faster.
Furthermore there are two ways to set the track starting time: Some people use the time when the new track comes in and some use the time when the previous tracks ends. We prefer the latter when the new track is playing alone and cannot be confused with the previous track playing below.
Removing the seconds and using the next full minute (42, not 41:30) kind of removes these complications.


Again: You don't have to fix tracklists to apply to those formats. That would be a lot of effort to do it manually. But if you have the chance to add tracklists in that format, go for it.

Start a new tracklist

When you can't find a tracklist on the web to copy you can start one yourself here. Please add the starting time of the tracks you identify within the mix.
Ideally include the starting time of the next track even if you are unable to identify it. If you want to make the tracklist complete, you can use [??] for the starting time of tracks. This way it's easier to work on the tracklist afterwards. Example:

Input Output

<list>
[00] ?
...
[22] Artist - Track
[27] ?
...
[45] Artist - Track
[??] ?
[??] ?
[61] Artist - Track
[68] ?
...
</list>

[00] ?
...
[22] Artist - Track
[27] ?
...
[45] Artist - Track
[??] ?
[??] ?
[61] Artist - Track
[68] ?
...

If you added all tracks you can use the auto numbering with #. So there are only 2 ways to format it:

FAQ

When is a tracklist complete?

Basically we consider a tracklist to be complete when...

  • No track is missing
  • You could find every track
    • The stated track info is complete enough to run a search and find that track on e.g. discogs (with common sense...).
    • Unsearchable track info like N/A - HOT 001 should be linked to a unique discogs release or master page.
    • Label / catalog numbers are nice but not essentially needed. Missing label info should not be added with e.g. Super Artist - That Track [???]: The [???] doesn't make the tracklist incomplete and should be removed.
  • Untitled tracks are unique
    • Super Artist - Untitled should read the label cat# (e.g. Super Artist - Untitled [Funky Label - 042]) or be linked to a unique discogs release or master page. Otherwise it is not unique.
    • Super Artist - That EP is enough info to buy the track / release, so we consider it as complete info. Super Artist - Untitled (A2) [That EP] is better tho.
  • Unreleased tracks are titled
    • Super Artist - Unreleased or Super Artist - Promo is not a complete track info while Super Artist - Track Name [Unreleased] is. An unreleased track can be released in the future, so a title is needed.

Note: Nonetheless a mix page can be categorized into the wrong tracklist category. Please fix it if you come across such ;)

What is the difference between "Unknown Artist" and "N/A" ?

N/A means no answer, no information given.

If no artist is mentioned on the release then it is not known, sure. But Unknown Artist implies that the artist name should be resolved in the tracklist.

But when there's a label given, we assume the artist is not given on the release and so N/A is correct.

Using Unknown Artist is not totally wrong but when a label is given, it will automatically be replaced to N/A in the Tracklist Editor.

Discogs has another problem: When it's known that some artist is behind a white label series (e.g. Shed behind "Wax") they often solve this by creating a fictionary artist which they can connect to the real artist behind it. But actually there is no artist given so e.g. N/A would be correct.


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